The janus-faced character of Niira Radia has been a matter of much discussion for the last several months. Here is the evidence to it. After the last post on this site exposed her methods to obfuscate and mislead investigators during her interrogation by the CBI, the following deposition before the Public Accounts Committee of the Parliament, headed by Dr.Murli Manohar Joshi, exposes her further.

On the other hand she confirms every one of the 55 conversations she is confronted with by the CBI officers and gives explanations of every conversation, without ever resorting to claims of “editing” or “distortion” as she does before the PAC. No wonder the PAC has come to the conclusion that it is “an indication of her guilty conscience”.

Following are the extracts of Dr.Joshi’s PAC report:

Ms. Niira Radia while deposing before the Committee stated that the publication of her conversations with many people in some magazines was a part of corporate conspiracy against her but did not disclose who the conspirators are. Similarly, while responding to various queries of the Committee, she gave an impression that she was predetermined not to come out with the facts. The Committee feels that her reluctance to speak the truth is somehow an indication of her guilty conscience.

On 4th April, 2011, the Committee took evidence of Ms. Niira Radia, Chairperson, Vaishnavi Communications Corporation Pvt. Ltd. to ascertain the veracity of her conversation with various Politicians/Journalists/Corporate Houses on allocation of portfolios in the Union Government, allotment of 2G Spectrum, transfer of officials in the DoT, alleged payment of bribe etc.

The Committee asked Ms. Nira Radia whether the transcriptions of her Conversation with various people, as published in the Outlook and Open magazines were correct and authentic. Ms. Radia replied: “We have not accepted any of these conversations”.

13.17 The Committee asked whether any notice had been served to the Editors of the two magazines. In reply, Ms. Radia stated:
“We have served a legal notice at the time they published the conversations, Because, I believe, there is a tremendous amount of distortion in what they published and in the context in which they published the conversations and the
real conversations. I believe that there is a tremendous amount of editing that has taken place in the conversations”.

13.18 The Committee then retorted that they were informed that nobody had legally contested or contradicted what was published in the magazines. In reply, Ms. Radia stated: “If I can say, there are two aspects to this. When the conversations were made public, we did what we had to. We had to do it in terms of making at least Protesting it as far as the magazine is concerned. As far as legal recourse Available to us is concerned; we have time for the legal recourse”.
She further stated:
“……. Our priority at that time was to cooperate with the agencies because that was what was required of us to do. That is what we have done. As far as the magazines are concerned, I would imagine you are aware that my clients, who are the TATs, have taken action and they moved the court on the larger issue of privacy in which the court itself has served notices to these magazines”.

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13.19 Asked to state specifically whether any legal notice was served or not, Ms.
Radia at last admitted: “We served only a protest. We have not taken legal action”. She further stated that she was intending to take legal action.

13.20 When the Committee pointed out several of her exact conversations on payment of bride for spectrum allocation of portfolio in the Union Cabinet, she simply replied that she did not recollect any thing.

13.21 The Committee then desired to know that after she was made witness by the CBI, the investigating agency must have played the tapes to her and whether she agreed with the conversation or contradicted it. In response Ms. Radia stated: “Sir, the matter is sub-judice”.
She further stated:
“I am glad that the investigating agencies went into the details. I am glad that they heard my conversations in the context that they needed to be heard. I am glad that they looked at documents and papers that were submitted in the context that had to be given and not taken out of context just because a magazine chose to carry something in a particular way. The magazine would have chosen to carry something in a particular way because we may not entertain the magazine. Today, the media is driven in a completely different way. It is driven bottom-line. It is sensationalist. So, we have taken a view to approach things slightly differently”.

13.22 The Committee then queried as to whether she meant to say that both the magazines were driven by some extraneous consideration. In reply, Ms. Radia submitted: “I think, there is a conspiracy. I believe, there is a corporate conspiracy and I have seen it”. Asked to point out the conspirators, she replied: “Anybody who would not want competition”.

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13.23 The Committee then desired to know whether she was performing a public relation service or actually lobbying for her client to get them certain advantages. The Committee also categorically asked whether carrying Tata’s personal had written letter to Mr. Karunanidhi was to part of her job, according to the mandate. In reply Ms.Radia submitted: “We are not lobbyists. It is not our job to lobby. Yes, it is our job to talk to
various stakeholders, but that does not necessarily mean that we are lobbying for our client. We are simply communicating a point of view”.
On the issue of carrying Mr. Tata’s personal letter, she clarified: “…..our role, as defined in our mandate, is to communicate our client’s point of view. Carrying the letter was to hand over the letter to Shri Karunanidhi on behalf of Shri Tata……”

13.24 Asked to state whether her conversation with Ms. Burkha Dutt did not give an impression that she was lobbying. In response, Ms. Radia stated: “I think if you listen to the conversation in the context that they need to be listened to, everybody is discussing who is becoming what cabinet minister and what they are doing at that time. I do not think it was anything different from watching TV channels or watching new reports. Giving a particular point of view, we were simply asking information from journalists who were in touch with political people, who were on the political beat, who had information or who may know things because they have been reporting certain things in a particular manner that they seem to know things. All we were doing was just asking information from them”.

13.25 The Committee then asked whether the conversation did not indicate that Ms. Dutt was leading her up the garden path. Ms. Radia replied: “I do not think that anyone was leading anyone up the garden path. I think, we were just having a conversation about who is becoming the Cabinet Minister and I was relaying to her the anxiety of what our client had lived through in the previous years, prior to that. I think all I was giving her was information as I knew it about a particular person and the chemistry that existed between my client…”.

13.26 On being asked to state categorically and truthfully as to whether the tapes
were genuine or not, Ms. Radia submitted:

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“At least the tapes that I have heard from the investigating agencies are genuine tapes”.

13.27 Asked to furnish the list of the conversations that was played to her by the CBI, Ms. Radia deposed: “Sir, we will write to the concerned agency and we will ask them, if this is
permissible under law. We will also make a reference of the PAC”.

—Pgs.169-172 of the main report of the PAC headed by Dr.Murli Manohar Joshi.